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m42
02-07-2009, 06:33 PM
TAMPA, Fla. (AP) -- Eighteen and pregnant, Sycloria Williams went to an abortion clinic outside Miami and paid $1,200 for Dr. Pierre Jean-Jacque Renelique to terminate her 23-week pregnancy.

Three days later, she sat in a reclining chair, medicated to dilate her cervix and otherwise get her ready for the procedure.

Only Renelique didn't arrive in time. According to Williams and the Florida Department of Health, she went into labor and delivered a live baby girl.

What Williams and the Health Department say happened next has shocked people on both sides of the abortion debate:

http://www.baynews9.com/content/36/2009/2/5/434257.html

John Scott
02-08-2009, 01:08 AM
I don't see what is so special about this case. Ron Paul recounted see live babies being left to die in his book, The Revolution.

Obama specifically opposed legislation that would protect babies who survived abortion-attempts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIdbYjmbFzo

In Japan, it's almost common knowledge that American abortion clinics will abort babies on demand, no matter how along it is. I've known more than a few who went to America abort in the third-trimester, when it is illegal here, and there.

kerrin
02-08-2009, 06:03 AM
A tragic story.

What gets me about this story is the news making it more sensational, appealing to peoples emotions. I've read several version of this story now and none of them seem to lay out the facts with a reasoned response.

They make no mention of the Misoprostol the drug used to enduce labor. Once in labor a birth is the necessary outcome. The "outrage" is the fact that the child was born and "treated like garbage" not that the women intended on killing her child.

Commenting on a 23 week old:
Even with the advent of new life-saving techniques for such tiny infants, the odds for survival are still only about 15 percent or about one in seven for babies of this gestational age and size — Dr. Robert Jansen, chief of neonatology at St Peter’s

A small woman’s clinic like the one in the article would not have the technology necessary to support such a fragile life at 23 weeks gestation that it would need within minutes of its birth.

Then I read this on cnn.com (http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/02/06/florida.abortion/index.html?iref=mpstoryview):

“The staff began screaming and pandemonium ensued. Sycloria watched in horror and shock as her baby writhed with her chest rising and falling as she breathed.”

A clinic co-owner entered the room and used a pair of shears to cut the baby’s umbilical cord, the suit said. She “then scooped up the baby and placed the live baby, placenta and afterbirth in a red plastic biohazard bag, which she sealed, and then threw bag and the baby in a trash can.”

“The complainant [Williams] observed the baby moving and gasping for air for approximately five minutes”


So where was this five minutes? It couldn’t have been in-between cutting the umbilical cord and scooping up the baby (that seems like a matter of seconds). It must have been before the cutting of the umbilical cord, prior to the clinic co-owner entering the room. More than likely the baby died prior to co-owner entering the room.

I’m wondering why in this five minute time period the mother didn’t demand a call to paramedics… or do it herself?

She is now suing the clinic becuase her baby died and she had to watch?

John Scott
02-08-2009, 08:37 PM
She's suing for money. Ironic situation. Hire somebody to kill another person, and then sue the hitman when he does it in plain sight of you.

kerrin
02-08-2009, 08:39 PM
She's suing for money. Ironic situation. Hire somebody to kill another person, and then sue the hitman when he does it in plain sight of you.
Could this society be any more screwed up? Wait don't answer that.