View Full Version : The Truth About Barack Obama: What Every American Needs to Know
Written by a Colorado local I met while vacationing in Costa Rica last year. Ross is a definitely a sharp cookie.
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Barack Obama’s quest for the presidency is remarkable in many ways, not least of which is the utter lack of close scrutiny by the dominant liberal media of Obama’s history. What little we know of it is a history that belies nearly everything those who see him as their political messiah believe to be true: that he is a reformer, an agent of “change,” a “new style” of “post-partisan” politician, that his relationships with (to put it mildly) unsavory characters like Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers are irrelevant outliers, and that Obama is a moderate who works well with Republicans and Democrats alike to get important things done.
In his new book, The Case Against Barack Obama, (published by Regnery and available here at Amazon.com) political reporter David Freddoso lays out in great detail (averaging 65 footnotes per chapter) the many substantial flaws in Obama, showing him to be anything but a new sort of politician and anything but a force for positive change or real change of any kind, other than change to benefit Obama and advance the liberal agenda. Obama is, as Fred Thompson said, George McGovern without the credentials.
DSieve
09-16-2008, 02:00 PM
I posted my thoughts about Obama here: <snip>
Can I get you to post your thoughts on this forum? ;) It would really help us get things started!
DSieve
09-16-2008, 03:01 PM
I posted my thoughts about Obama here: <snip>
Can I get you to post your thoughts on this forum? ;) It would really help us get things started!
link nazi! lol...
Sorry Democrats, but I have strong reservations about what Barack Obama stands for and what he might do as president.
Fiscal Policy
The USA cannot afford Barack Obama's policies. (http://www.ntu.org/main/press.php?PressID=1022&org_name=NTUF) The economy is going to be suffering a recession (and possible depression) as it is. How in the world does Obama think we are going to be able to afford all the wonderful government programs he wants? As the most liberal senator of 2007 (http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/), I have low expectations that he will curb a Democratic Congress' calls for even more spending.
Civil Liberties
I am also not convinced of Obama's sincerity in his commitments to civil liberties. (http://www.barackobama.com/factcheck/2008/01/05/fact_check_obamas_consistent_p_1.php) His voting record on important legislation in that area is curious at best (see Patriot Act, Patriot Act renewal, agreement in principle with Real ID act (http://www.news.com/Technology-Voters-Guide-Barack-Obama---page-2/2100-1028_3-6224109-2.html?tag=st.next)). I would really like to see him make a strong statement denouncing the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 (http://www.dsieve.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12) which is currently sitting in the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs of which he is a member awaiting recommendation to the Senate (or hopefully a loud and permanent death).
Foreign Policy
His campaign rhetoric (http://www.barackobama.com/issues/foreignpolicy/) is hitting the right notes, but his membership in the CFR suggests he is a globalist at heart (http://www.nowpublic.com/obama-cfr).
firetown
09-16-2008, 04:01 PM
link nazi! lol...
No, it's for people like me who don't want to click to read something. Keep it in this thread/forum, so we can easily discuss it. :)
link nazi! lol...
Uh huh. Please use the signature function if you wish to advertise your site.
DSieve
09-17-2008, 06:43 AM
Sigh. I guess no one recognizes a joke when they see one. I'm not trying to advertise here and that's why there isn't a link in my sig. Any comments re: Obama's political record/platform?
firetown
09-17-2008, 03:56 PM
I see him as popular for only one reason. The Anti-Bush movement and his ability to cash in on it. He is vocal, loud. He is hateful. The hateful in the country identify with him and press his agenda for him.
He is an opportunist cashing in on everything he can, his color, his upbringing, anything to get the eyes away from the poltical substance which he lacks.
He is only good at attacking.
The only chance he has of winning is to move the Anti Bush hatred towards McCain.
Without that he will not stand a chance, so McCain needs to duck the attacks and go forward with what he believes in without paying attention to that.
kerrin
10-07-2008, 07:16 PM
I see him as popular for only one reason. The Anti-Bush movement and his ability to cash in on it.
I disagree. He is a smooth communicator. He has unlike his predecessors found a way to speak to a generation that rejects idolological rhetoric.
...anything to get the eyes away from the political substance which he lacks.
He has political "substance." It is a political strategy to stay away from much of his "substance" in his rhetoric because it will not help him win a national election.
The only chance he has of winning is to move the Anti Bush hatred towards McCain.
Again I will disagree. In the debates thus far he has rarely attempted to paint McCain as another Bush. McCain has a strong rebuttal to these accusations (e.g. "The Maverick").
This election is Obama's to loose.
firetown
10-07-2008, 08:09 PM
Obama has never had any substance.
kerrin
10-07-2008, 08:31 PM
Obama has never had any substance.
Obama has substance. It's just not very popular in America right now so he doesn't share it while campaigning for a national race.
Look I don't like Obama any more then I like McCain. They are both, in essence, more of the same. But your patrician, generic idioms are part of the problem. Saying, "Obama has never had any substance" avoids answer any arguments or points he may make, which actually makes your statement seem to lack any substance.
You must either define your idea of 'substance', or show some proof that Obama lacks substance to sustain your argument.
I disagree. He is a smooth communicator. He has unlike his predecessors found a way to speak to a generation that rejects idolological rederick.
He has political "substance." It is a political strategy to stay away from much of his "substance" in his rederick because it will not help him win a national election.
Generations that reject the popular ideological rhetoric tend to focus on some alternative rhetoric. Even Hitler seemed able to bank on the support of the broken, the misunderstood, and the self-proclaimed misanthropes by catering to their pride.
Obama's campaign doesn't lack substance, it lacks truth.
kerrin
10-07-2008, 08:48 PM
m,
Generations that reject the popular ideological rhetoric tend to focus on some alternative rhetoric.
Excellent point.
Even Hitler seemed able to bank on the support of the broken, the misunderstood, and the self-proclaimed misanthropes by catering to their pride.
Humm... this is a thought provoking observation. What is it in this generation, who reject ideological rhetoric, that Obama caters to? Angry, guilt, mistrust, etc. ?
Obama's campaign doesn't lack substance, it lacks truth.
I like where you're going with this. What is not truth is falsehood. So what he espouses in his rhetoric is falsehood—he espouses lies. So what does he lie about?
What is it in this generation, who reject ideological rhetoric, that Obama caters to? Angry, guilt, mistrust, etc. ?
Good question. Probably all of the above.
Obama is spouting anything that could potentially appeal to the emotions of his audience --as opposed to their logic and reason.
So what does he lie about?
Example #1: The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer.
No matter how you spin it, that notion is erroneous to the core:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122143692536934297.html?mod=djemEditorialPage
Odds are pretty slim that his entire campaign is incapable of doing simple math. ;)
kerrin
10-08-2008, 05:48 AM
Obama is spouting anything that could potentially appeal to the emotions of his audience --as opposed to their logic and reason.
The increased effectiveness of this tactic may be the most disturbing trend in American politics. You do see both "sides of the isle" using this tactic to varying degrees—Obama just does it better. He also has the advantage of heightened emotional reactions to the mess the Republicrats have made.
Example #1: The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer.
No doubt, erroneous. In Obama's view, though, there shouldn't be this gap between the richest people and the poorest people. So the rhetoric of "fairness" (i.e. Socialism) is used and government is the way to bring about this "fairness," in his view.
On the flip side McCain seems to like "fairness" also.
I'll take "Big Government" for $300:
Spend taxes to make education 'fair' for all.
*buzz*
What is the No Child Left Behind act?
John Scott
10-10-2008, 08:04 AM
It is hard to get interested in the presidential election when both McCain and Obama are for big government. Total waste of a nation.
kerrin
10-10-2008, 09:36 AM
It is hard to get interested in the presidential election when both McCain and Obama are for big government.
Yea, interesting it is not. More like disheartening.
The only promising thing is big government has disappointed a growing number of people. There seems to be a growing awareness of its failures and hope for a revault or rejection of big government Republicrats.